you know wayne lapierre well and how they work as an organization. today we hear the nra is [ inaudible ] over the new gun control law, actually taking legal action to try to prevent them bringing in laws which make new york state safer from gun violence. what is your reaction to that? >> well, piers, in this country, laws have to abide by the constitution of the state that they're enacted in as well as under the federal constitution, and if one has a cause of action, the place to settle those concerns are in the courts. that's not just our system. that's the british system as well. i'm sure you're aware of that. that's why we settle those debates in the courts and not out on the street. >> piers, you know, there's a terrible irony that the nra is going after the state of new york for passing gun laws. they want to use the courts to try to protect themselves at the same time they push this law to immunize them from being held accountable by others. they want to use the court to protect themselves but don't want the consumers, the public, or cities to